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S29 Relegation S29 Advanced 1. W-FF Week 8. W-FF Week 9. FF-W Week 8. I think there's one more try of qualifiying that we are gonna try, we're gonna try our absolute best!
This time I'm gonna join the groupchat before hand to not get screwed over again lol. Everyone needed to submit a support ticket to register for the qualifier.
Aluminati posted it in there. I mean, this is ESEA you're talking about. I hate saying this, but why be surprised that they don't follow their own rules?
That's incredibly fucking gay. There's no point to having rules and regulations if they just break them whenever they feel like.
UKCS doesnt exist because teams are made of 16yo puggers that can't last 2 weeks together, it's different. This isn't uk having a chance taken off them, we all know what's holding back ukcs.
I've played in ESEA-premier for 6 seasons including S23 and there has not been a single time that the number of relegated teams has ever been announced.
It is ALWAYS situational and dependent on the season and participants are never told how many teams will be moved down at the end of the season.
We reserve the right to add or remove teams based on our own guidelines during the off-season. I really understand that you guys need a statement by ESEA.
And in my opinion reddit is the best way to do so. But just to fulfill the bashing. How the hell can turtle entertainment pay for a page like this!
Its not responsive, sidebar is overlapping and it looks like garbage. It actually looks like a tutorial homepage.
I dont know if anyone here remembers me but my name is Double-. A couple months ago I made a post about a case which happened in esea which resulted in my information being leaked.
My account was taken and cheated on and I received the ban for it even though I was able to provide all the proof I needed to ensure it was not me on the account.
Im also sure it was not hard to look at log in ip's and such to tell it was not me on the account. After being told by esea there was no chance they would unban me or help me with my case I posted it here in an attempt to reach someone who would help me.
This post was unfortunately removed although it had over upvotes and was on the front page. Bojangles telling me why it was removed when I asked for permission to post it again.
Now I do not disagree with the post above that this is a problem but why is this post considered okay while mine was not. After providing work logs showing I was not home when my account was taken and showing the steam ID was in no way related to me.
The best comparison would be to look at the North American Premier - they've relegated 5 teams - 3 of them were removed due to defaulting games, the other 2 were removed due to having 4 wins.
You mention that we're on par with the other teams below us when you remove the FFW - that's a lie - all of the teams below us also have at least 1 FFW in the standings.
Obviously we're not expecting to be placed back in Premier with this situation - it's more about bringing attention to the terrible decision making that has been shown by the admins over at ESEA.
Let's be real here. Gambit has more resources, how much did they pay ESEA above and beyond the entry fee?
Sadly theirs nothing you can do about it. Way MTG has worded their rules indicates verdicts on this matter are purely done under 'administrative discretion'.
Something FewOwns is clearly emphasizing in this thread. You're running a shameful company few Honestly the real problem is that no one from main usually top 2 and no one from intermediate usually top 1 moved up to premier, that whole season was basically pointless to the teams apart from the money.
If anything its your fault you went and were on the chopping block. But that's the chance that needs to be taken OR a couple more spots.
A brand new team to I could essentially crack a Upper spot if an Upper team is playing like trash. I don't see why this couldn't be implemented.
To be honest, nothing new with ESEA. Semi-pro then as well xD. ESEAs reply is "We don't care someone richer than you wants to compete so we are letting them".
Sorry for getting fucked over OP never even going to think about renewing my membership. This is honestly outrageous ESEA is a company that should have their shit together but they constantly don't.
They need to hire way better people in the departments of need and they need to fire the ones fucking everything up. What's even funnier is that without community backlash, shit like this will never get resolved.
ESEA see a thread with 2. They didn't do anything different with premier it appears. Your team had a total of 5 wins, one of which was from a FFW.
You reached double digits three of your 11 losses, two of those games you had 10 rounds. You were barely competing with the rest of your division.
I'm sorry man, but it looks deserved. Edit: In regards to Gambit, they forfeited a lot of matches, yet still pulled more wins.
I wouldn't worry about them. Premier has it's own rules and ESEA are breaking their own rules to allow the organizations with more money and influence to compete.
Gambit should NOT be able to play Premier. ESEA literally says they reserve the right to do whatever the fuck they want in their Premier rules lol:.
Move up and move downs for the Premier division are done based on admin discretion and the below guidelines do not necessarily apply.
We also reserve the right to adjust the amount of teams that are moved up or moved down between seasons to maintain competitive divisions.
While true, they told a Premier team that getting 4 or more forfeit losses would get them removed from Premier yet they bend their own rules for Gambit.
Also pathetic that Smooya's team, which placed 2nd in Main playoffs, is currently NOT getting moved up. European Premier is run like a joke, no consistency at all.
I mean, reading is hard for others apparently. I pointed out other divisions because it shows generally with 5 wins most people would be moved down.
Actually the rules you refer to stipulate that 5 is generally the minimum, which means that generally teams obtaining that minimum of 5 would be fine, teams getting less however wouldn't be.
Yes to make the division competitive and fill it out. Premier is a different beast, anyteam with five or less should be removed.
It doesn't make it competitive. They got told bottom teams will get relegated, they finished 18th of 24 and still got relegated, to make room for more known teams like gambit.
Also only one team of the lower league will get promoted, the other spots will get filled with new teams that didnt compete last season probably new teams with known players.
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